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    1010=== Agenda: === 
    1111 1. Approval of agenda 
    12  2. Approval of MoM from last meeting 
    13  3. Presentation of MMT Core Group And Deadlock group 
    14  3.1. Clarification in way of working 
    15  4. A.O.B. 
     12 1. Approval of MoM from last meeting 
     13 1. Presentation of MMT Core Group And Deadlock group 
     14  a. Clarification in way of working 
     15 1. A.O.B. 
    1616 
    1717=== Minutes of Meetings === 
     
    2020'''2. Approval of MoM from last meeting'''[[br]] 
    2121  OK[[br]] 
    22 '''3. MMT Core Group '''[[br]] 
    23 It was proposed to establish a MMT Core Group. The idea with the core group is that they commit themselves to the work of reviewing and approving modelling solutions. From the discussions about the core group it was realised that there actually exist two needs: 
     22'''3. Presentation of MMT Core Group And Deadlock group '''[[br]] 
     23The members of the core group are as follow:  
     24 * Darius Kanga 
     25 * Geiza Hamazaki 
     26 * Hans Teijgeler 
     27 * Ian Glendinning* 
     28 * Kari Anne Haaland Thorsen 
     29 * Keith Willshaw* 
     30 * Magne Valen-Sendstad* 
     31 * Mikhail Federov 
     32 * Onno Paap* 
     33 * Pavel Selchukov* 
     34 * Rahul Patil 
     35 * Viktor Agroskin 
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    25  * A group of people that volunteer to spend time reviewing and commenting proposed models.  
    26  * The ability to handle deadlocks in the core group.  
    27  
    28 __Suggested Core group:__ [[br]] 
    29 Mikhail Federov, Ian Glendinning, Geiza Hamazaki, Darius Kanga, Onno Paap, Rahul Patil, Pavel Selchukov, Hans Teijgeler, Kari Anne Haaland Thorsen, Magne Valen-Sendstad, and Keith Willshaw. 
    30  
    31 __Suggested Deadlock group:__[[br]] 
    32 Ian Glendinning, Onno Paap, Pavel Selchukov, Magne Valen-Sendstad and Keith Willshaw. 
    33  
    34 The core group should vote on 15926.org.  
    35 Anyone in the core group can request a deadlock vote, no matter whether it is just one person against everybody else.  
    36  
    37 It is important to keep the workload on the core group at a reasonable level.  
     37The once with an asterisk next to their name are the members of the deadlock group.  
    3838 
    3939 
    40 ''' 4. List of topics to model'''[[br]] 
    41 For priority on modelling issues, the following list was suggested by Hans: 
     40 ''' a. Clarification in way of working'''[[br]] 
     41We experienced some problems with the recent votes on the 15926.org forum. The major issues were: 
     42 * The requirement to order the voting, i.e. vote for some issues before others.  
     43 * Some of the issues were not open for voting 
     44 * Some models proposed were too complex for a simple yes/no vote 
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    43 ''Before we discuss templates we need to discuss:'' 
    44  ''1) the lifecycle model, see http://www.15926.info/cradle-to-grave/index.htm[[br]]'' 
    45  ''2) the class variant model, see http://www.15926.info/plant-design/index.htm'' 
     46It was proposed to break down the models to simpler part as follows: [[br]] 
     47__Property Range Issue:__[[br]] 
     48The discussion is to be locked. Onno will summarize the discussion, and start different topics to cover various branches of the discussion.  Magne prefer to model this in part2 and part4, and Onno showed how The Oline Tools Template definitions allow for this. [[br]] 
    4649 
    47 ''List of templates:  '' 
    48  ''Nr 1) defines how we model information about the various lifecycle stages.''[[br]] 
    49  ''Nr 2) influences all class templates, in that we need to add the Ur-Class to all of them, to come to a set-up that is comparable with the temporal parts of possible individuals.'' 
    50   
    51 ''For the templates I refer to http://www.infowebml.ws/mapping-methodology/index.htm '' 
     50__Plant Lifecycle Model:__[[br]] 
     51Two main issues were discussed:  
     52 * Modelling using Classes instead of individuals 
     53 * Modelling of Temporal Parts to Classes 
     54Onno will split the proposals and lock the existing issue after discussion with Mange and Hans. This is to allow the group to discuss the matter farther. [[br]] 
    5255 
    53 The list was approved as the “correct” priority list with no comments.   
     56__Class Model:__[[br]] 
     57This existing issue will also be locked and discussion renewed with a proposal aimed at coming up with a clear method of making a clear decision preferably using a flowchart.[[br]] 
     58 
     59__Template model revisited:__[[br]] 
     60In order to use Class Model new Templates would be requires. Hans wanted to summarize these changes. However, new ideas have evolved which instead of pointing at templates involves pointing at specialized classes using enumerated lists of classes. This will become decouples from the Plat Lifecycle Model.  
     61Magne discussed necessity of deciding where you are in the 4-level architecture. [[br]] 
     62 
     63Onno, Hans, Ian and Magne are to meet 21/22nd of June to discuss these modelling issues further.  The result of the meeting will be presented in our next meeting. [[br]] 
     64 
     65Subjects should be open for discussions at an adequate time for the core group to evaluate and comment. Preferably discussions should end with a consensus, but if that is not possible, Kari Anne will arrange for special deadlock meetings. [[br]] 
     66 
     67Kari Anne asked for feedback with regards to the core groups vacation plans. This was to avoid pulling of a vote at the middle of someone’s vacation.  [[br]] 
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    56 ''' 5. A.O.B.'''[[br]] 
    57 There were not many people present in the meeting. This might be due to the time of the day. We will keep up with three different times for a while, but if it turns out that the attendance continue to be exceptionally low at this time of the day we will have to consider changing it.  
     70 
     71''' 4. A.O.B.'''[[br]] 
     72 
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